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How Long Must A Long Train Of Abuses Be?

24 November 2014 @ 13:51

There’s been a very interesting discussion going-on over the past couple of days over at the Belmont Club in the Comments section of a post by Richard Fernandez.

At one point Subotai Bahadur [who I have quoted from approvingly a number of times before in these Dispatches] remarked:

Civility is a virtue up to a point. That point in politics is the point where it is forgotten what the purpose of politics is. Politics is how a society has agreed to allocate power and resources and and legitimize the process short of the violence that has been how our species has done it for as long as it has existed. Once the agreement on how politics are to be conducted is broken, the automatic default is bloodshed until a new equilibrium is achieved.

It seems that civility holds only in those who are in theory the opposition to Obama. That civility is now out of place for the times, and does nothing but guarantee losing.

The legitimacy of the law, and the government as a whole is based on consent of the governed under the rules set out under the Constitution. When Emperor Buraq chose to rule by decree totally outside the Constitution [take a look at Article I, Section 8 which gives Congress
exclusive authority over immigration law. Further, in over half a
century of reading the Constitution I have yet to encounter the “sick
and tired of waiting so the President rules by decree” clause] he violated the contract between the American people and the government. If he is not reined in, and right smartly, the contract will be void. And the power of the Federal government will only extend as far as the reach of the guns of those of its employees who violate their oaths.

And the new American sport will be hunting Leftists in the streets with dogs.

We ended the rule of Kings in this country over two centuries ago. We will not have an Emperor. Consent Rescinded.

And if necessary the sanguinary process involved will be most uncivil. Here there be dragons, and it is best to be either one of them or on good terms with them, when they decide that a certain Oath never expires.

Commentator ExSSNcrew responded:

From the Declaration of Independence:
“… Governments long established should not be changed for light or transient Causes; and accordingly all Experience hath shewn, that Mankind are more disposed to suffer, while Evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the Forms to which they are accustomed.”

The long train of abuses and usurpations is not yet long enough or abusive enough to be insufferable.

And when will they be long enough and abusive enough?

I say we have been disposed to suffer long enough.

The Founders rose up over less than we are experiencing now.

The Constitution has been overturned in a Stealth Coup that took slightly over a century to achieve. The current Leftists in Power And Control are merely firing the final shots into it’s critically wounded corpse.

How long is long? You say a century is not long enough a train. Many of us say it is too long, that it is so long we stand a very good chance of not being able to derail it.

I say the situation is insufferable, intolerable, that it is time to act.

There is a chance that the Article V Effort might work, but, considering how fair down The Road To Serfdom we have gone, it will be a very close-run thing. And what good will it do to achieve such a victory, what will ensure it’s continuing success if it is not complemented by a recapturing of Virtue in our Souls, by a flushing out of the Leftist Way Of Thinking that has invaded all of our hearts and minds?

Sadly – and it breaks my heart to say this – we will soon have to decide whether we will allow the chains to be locked on our wrists and ankles or take up arms.

I know not what course others may take, but as for me:
I will not be a slave; I will either Live Free Or Die.


  1. 24 November 2014 @ 14:03 14:03

    It is very frustrating. What is it going to take for people to stop bitching and start doing?

    • 24 November 2014 @ 19:48 19:48

      I’ve been trying to figure that out.

      • 24 November 2014 @ 22:40 22:40

        We (as a nation) are not made of the stuff the colonists were. I wish it was so, but look around you.

  2. Adobe_Walls permalink
    24 November 2014 @ 16:27 16:27

    Sad to say, but the problem is not enough Americans feel all that abused or at least can’t figure out who their abuser is. Subtract that number from those at the very top who feel things are going splendidly and those at the bottom who would be perfectly happy with their lot if only the police would stop arresting and shooting them for engaging in recreational mayhem, and one must conclude that train of abuses will become very long indeed.

  3. 24 November 2014 @ 22:42 22:42

    Reblogged this on Northwestern Localist.

  4. 25 November 2014 @ 07:17 07:17

    The Founders rose up against a foreign entity at that point. Yes, there were troops and guns and ships, but for the most part, a man knew his neighbor who struggled with him, worked alongside him to hew a living out of a wild landscape.

    Our enemy is next door, in every strata, commands an army in every city, well-supplied with instruments of war, and at least 50% of the population at their back. The odds are very different, the world is very compact, and for now, slavery is comfortable.

    • PapaMAS permalink
      25 November 2014 @ 07:50 07:50

      Joan, you make a good point. England seemed to be increasingly imposing its will after letting the colonies pretty much mind themselves for awhile. Still, about a third of the population were rebels, a third loyalists, and a third didn’t give a hoot and just wanted to be left alone. So, I don’t think the odds are all that different.

    • thecampofthesaints permalink
      25 November 2014 @ 08:05 08:05

      Regarding your second paragraph, Joan, may I refer you to something I wrote this past Spring:

      Any thoughts you have would be appreciated – and any from the rest of you all, as well.

      On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:17 AM, The Camp Of The Saints wrote:


  5. Boon Vickerson is out there permalink
    25 November 2014 @ 13:38 13:38

    Said very well. It is great to share the same heart felt sentiments and principles of liberty.
    I believe it is time to get past the constitution, see it for the terrible device of administrative law it is and the tyranny it has cunningly enabled. The truth that piece of parchment has not once assisted in creation of liberty, gives thoughtful consideration it is time to abolish it, just as those in power have. If for no other reason they have used it as a cunning tool to accumulating powers never theirs.
    If we think past the constitution, there is no doubt as to the legitimacy of the state and all powers vested in us by birth and God are once again unquestionable.


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