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The GOP Sedate

14 June 2011 @ 17:31

I only caught bits and pieces of the debate live last night between some of GOP Presidential candidates and some highlights later on, so please take any of my following opinions with that fact in mind…

-Unless the parts I missed were very different in tone, I must say I agree with Mark Steyn wholeheartedly:

The trouble is it’s all “This or That”. As Newt pointed out, most of the questions posit ridiculous choices: Are you in favor of amnesty for illegal immigrants or are you in favor of deporting 20 million people? Are you in favor of seizing private property in New Hampshire for a Hydro Qu‚bec power line or are you in favor of continued oil dependency on psychotic dictators? The remainder fall into cutesie-pie stuff that John King lacks the personality to pull off, and the last embodied in its perfect post-modern stupidity the awfulness of these “debates”: “What have you learned during the past two hours?”

Hmm. What I learned is that John King makes Tim Pawlenty look like Lady Gaga….

First of all, what are these supposed conservatives and libertarians doing allowing the forum to be controlled by The Enemy?  Get it through you heads candidates: the people at the non-Fox networks HATE YOU — they despise everything you stand for and, in fact, think you are, for all practical purposes, sub-human. You must all band together and dictate the conditions for each and every debate.  Also, it is imperative that you demand no idiotic questions be asked like ‘Coke or Pepsi?’ or ‘What have you learned these past two hours?’ or ‘If you could be a fruit, which kind of fruit would you be?’.

Mr. Steyn continues [emphasis mine]…

…Other than that, I also got the distinct impression that this season’s debates seem unlikely to be effective forums even for acknowledging the profound and existential crises facing the nation, never mind addressing them.

We are in the fight to the death with Leftism. It is a battle where the result will be that we end up with either our freedoms and liberties restored or enslaved to the state with a jackboot grinding in our faces forever.  The days of the old politics are gone.  There can be no compromise with people who want to destroy everything we hold dear.  Wake up you fools!  Act like you understand that we are experiencing a crisis as, if not more, serious than The Civil War.

Mr. Steyn again [emphasis mine]:

But I agree with Rich [Lowry] that Michele Bachmann was very strong. … I also agree that the answers on Afghanistan about deferring to the commanders in the field were pathetic – for a couple of reasons:

First, as I said in NR a couple of issues back, you can’t win a war unless you have war aims – and war aims are determined by a nation’s civilian leadership. So, if Romney & Co mean what they say, it helps explain why America has nothing to show either for a decade in the Hindu Kush or for three months over Tripoli.

Alternatively, if they don’t mean it, then they’re just pandering in a bumper-stickerish “I So Totally Support Our Troops I’ll Take My Orders From Them” kind of way. And this political season ought to be one not for panderers but for tellers of hard truths.

This whole thing about ‘listening to the generals’ really bothers me. Dammit, you want to be President Of The United States — that means you will be Commander-In-Chief, the civilian and supreme head of our Armed Forces.  The Founders arranged it this way so that the military would not run the show — they would be under the thumb of the civil.  You do not need to consult generals before you devise a guiding, overall policy regarding America’s National Defense [see: Reagan, Ronald].  Last night most of the candidates were pathetic when it came to National Defense policy because they pulled that whole ‘listening’ BS.  Man-up and tell us how you will handle a very dangerous world where we have many enemies who want to see us dead.  Oh, and pound home every chance you can get that your would support Israel all the way.  King Barack The Unready abdicated his position as The Leader Of The Free World — Goddammt, start to reclaim it: put your boots on and come out, guns a-blazing. 

We’re the last, best hope for civilization in the world.

-DaTechGuy drove up to the debate and has extensive coverage and video, here, here, here, here, and here.  In that first posting linked, Pete offers some damn fine analysis of the show.

-The Lonely Conservative watched, offered some live analysis, and, if you missed it, has posted the sucker here.

-Matt offers some fine commentary here.

-Kate puts in her two cents here and hits the jackpot.

-Stacy McCain has a small aggregation here.

-Politicaljunkie Mom, subbing for Pundette, has a good one here.

-One of his links is to ThatMrGGuy who live blogged it [and, don’t know how he did it, but stayed sober].

-Pat Austin live blogged, too, but I suspect with the aid of a Sam Adams or two.

  1. 14 June 2011 @ 17:40 17:40

    The GOP debate was kinda boring. I liked Michelle Bachmann and Rick Santorum. Pawlenty, Cain, Gingrich and Romney were okay. Paul looked disheveled but made some good comments about the Fed.

  2. Adobe Walls permalink
    14 June 2011 @ 19:37 19:37

    I didn’t watch because it was on CNN. Why should we care what the communists here and abroad want to know about the Stupublican candidates? The people moderating the debate are them, the enemy and idealy that debate should have ended in a show of Republican unity IE: with the candidates beating the moderators to death with their lily white podiums.(I did read Vodka Pundit after)

  3. 14 June 2011 @ 19:59 19:59

    Thanks for the link Bob. Yes, unfortunately I didn’t have the proper liquid libation for such an event as that GOP debate last night. John King was the wrong choice for moderator, for sure.

  4. bobbelvedere permalink*
    14 June 2011 @ 20:05 20:05

    Tere: The Fed is one of those issues that has be talked about much more.

    Adobe: Man, I like the way you think.

    Mike: Be prepared next time!

  5. Adobe Walls permalink
    14 June 2011 @ 21:57 21:57

    As he often does Frank J nails it.

  6. bobbelvedere permalink*
    15 June 2011 @ 19:09 19:09

    Adobe: Just read Franks proposal – love it.


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