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The End Of Leftist Days?

24 February 2010 @ 14:29

There’s a very interesting discussion being carried on over the Washington Rebel about Progressivism, Collectivism, Totalitarianism, Pragmatism, their opposites, and the mental state of America today.

I believe it all started with Friend Fuchs posting of 17 February Republicans’ Progressive Roots.  In it he quotes from Ronald J. Pestritto, author of Woodrow Wilson and the Roots of Modern Liberalism:

The story of big government in America begins in the Progressive Era, stretching from the 1880s through World War I. Enamored with 19th-century European historicist philosophy and unwilling to hold any truths as self-evident, American Progressives thought[think] the natural right principles of the Declaration of Independence and the United States Constitution represented the greatest obstacle to political “progress” and “evolution.” In place of the U.S. Constitution, Progressivism proposed an administrative state whose purpose would be the unending quest of evolutionary “progress” and whose powers therefore would be unlimited.

That is the best succinct explanation of the Progressivist evil I have seen.

FF goes on to write:

What needs to be pointed out is that whenever a progressive republican is elected President and the succeeding President is a democrat, the democrat doubles down, doing it to us even harder than his predecessor: starting with Teddy Roosevelt.

Too true.  It’s as if the successor President believes he has been given license by his GOP predecessor.  He has.

-Yesterday morning, Rob de Witt with some Common Sense, as he labeled it.  A highlight:

Republicans are these days exhibiting what amounts to schizophrenia regarding their principles. On the one hand are those who would have it that winning is everything; on the other there are an increasing number of people who would appear to be asking with St. Mark, “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” The “pragmatists” fear that the splintering of the Right will lead to the inevitable triumph of madness, while the popular movement exemplified by the Tea Party activists views the current uproar as the first evidence of a return to sanity, and the healthiest development in the national dialogue in over a century.

A soul is a terrible thing to waste.

I particularly liked this passage:

What goes unaddressed by the soi-disant pundits of the Right is that the final battle is already joined. Beck rightly characterizes the current malaise as a cancer. Americans everywhere are recognizing that aspirin may make the headache ease, but the long slow slide towards Big Brother is now too terrifying to remain unconfronted….

The war has been raging for one hundred years and Rob is quite correct that the final battle has begun between The Camp Of The Saints And The Beloved City and the Orcs who serve the Beast of Leftism.

-Several hours later, The Classic Liberal added to the discussion by ripping to shreds The Myth Of Collectivism.  The Left believes that groups have rights.  TheCL demolishes that fallacy:

You can’t touch or see a group. You can only touch and see individuals. Groups have no tangible reality. They are nothing but an abstract idea that attempts to homogenize many unique individuals.

Only individuals are real. This is why only individuals can have rights. After all, how could an abstract concept, an intangible myth, have rights?

Collectivists not only preach that groups have rights, but that groups also have power. In other words, the majority (Group A) has more rights than the minority (Group B), and that the State (with unlimited rights) is the tool for Group A to exercise power over Group B. (See why I refuse to call them liberal?) [Bob: that’s why I never use the term]

He then goes on to destroy the Bolshes myth about what is good sacrifice.

-That evening, John Jay expanded upon the definition of Collectivism and commented on the irony that it advocates equality in all things for all, yet:

[T]hat is the tyranny of the collective. [N]ot that it has only one voice. [B]ut, that it tolerates only one voice, … , and one vision, and encompasses only one permitted truth. [D]efined by that one voice.

-Further on in the night, Irish Cicero says it loud, says it proud: Yes, I Am Conservative, and Damn Proud of it.  And he is.  This is a Cicero tour de force.  A highlight [language warning]:

…what we’ve seen here at the Reb, and what you’re watching across the Conservative “community”, is a complete flowering of not just what it means to be a conservative, but more importantly, what does the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA need at this moment? Many people who have been lax in their patriotism are awakening to the clear and present danger that our girly-man president represents.

Here is how I see things: since Abe Lincoln at least — certainly since FDR — this marriage between the corporate world and the U.S. Government has blossomed into a full-fledged oligarchy. We have the iron triangle of agency, congressional or executive interest, and industry. Eisenhower called it the Military-Industrial Complex. It is real and you and I are paying for it. Thousands have died for it. It is made up of an elite of Harvard and Yale and Wellesley pricks and cunts who care no more for you than you care for someone else’s dog that died 10 years ago. They run the country. You vote for them.

Democrats and “liberals” are stupid enough to believe they mean you well, that they are about “justice”, which only proves your IQ is around 10. Republicans are stupid enough to believe we can continue a great nation in spite of them. Here are the facts: we are no longer a great nation. Well, not as great as we ought to be. We are up to ass in debt and our moral character has declined considerably. We are like the 45-year-old former lady’s man who is drunk and fat. Everyone can see he’s drunk and fat. In his mind, he’s still a stud. It would be funny but it’s so goddamn pathetic.

That is our situation.

Indeed.

-I think its imperative that we understand the nature of our enemy, the Left, and how ingrained Leftist/Collectivist thinking has permeated nearly every aspect of our thinking.  It’s imperative if we are going to have any chance of doing those things necessary to defeat the Progressive cancer.  At the same time, we also have to understand who we are and what we stand for and why we believe it.  Until we search our own souls, we cannot perform effective search and destroy missions against the Bolshes.

-FINAL NOTE: The above discussion by the Reb folks is typical of the informative and interesting conversation that goes on all of the time at the Washington Rebel.

8 Comments
  1. 24 February 2010 @ 15:55 15:55

    Bob,

    Thanks for the link. I really feel in rarefied company here and at the Reb.

    Regards

    • bobbelvedere permalink*
      24 February 2010 @ 16:16 16:16

      You are welcome and thank you for the compliment.

      FYI: Your’s was the 666th comment I’ve received here at my new WordPress site…should I be concerned?

      • 25 February 2010 @ 06:43 06:43

        Hmm….

        Well, it is true that my ex-wife’s extension was 666 when she worked for the IRS. And look how well that turned out…

        • bobbelvedere permalink*
          25 February 2010 @ 07:20 07:20

          Another piece of evidence! The puzzle is slowly coming together. And to think I was planning on killing my niece/Godchild because she turns 33 [the age Christ bought it] on 21 December 2012 [you know, the day the world is supposed to end]. Wait a minute………perhaps you’re in cahoots with her? Say….just asking out of curiosity – no other motive – do you live in or near Hollywood? Curiosity, that’s all….

  2. Adobe Walls permalink
    24 February 2010 @ 17:38 17:38

    Great work today I’ll be putting Reb up at the top of my favorites list, many links are saved few actually get moved to the top. I”ve also enjoyed and copied a couple of the Goldwater quotes from your site much appreciated.

    • bobbelvedere permalink*
      24 February 2010 @ 18:02 18:02

      My pleasure.

  3. 24 February 2010 @ 23:58 23:58

    Belvedere:

    You’re a gentlemen.

    I pledge to cause you as much traffic as I can. That’s a fact.

    • bobbelvedere permalink*
      25 February 2010 @ 07:16 07:16

      Hey Irish: When I see the good stuff, I link it and WR has the goods.

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